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Leeds United And The Other 91 Basket Cases, Back The Bid

Paul says Back the Bid.

Tuesday 24th August 2010. What does that date mean to football fans? Well for those supporters with clubs still in the League Cup, it’ll be all about tonight’s fixtures. For Leeds United fans it’ll be the anticipation of the Second Round clash with Leicester City at Elland Road after last Saturday’s outstanding win over Millwall in the Championship.

But there is another reason why I mention this date, it marks 100 days to the decision (which is to be made on December 2nd 2010), by FIFA in selecting the hosts for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. The FIFA delegates arrived yesterday and will be in England until August 26th assessing the England Bid and visiting London, Manchester, Sunderland and Newcastle. Today has been designated as “Wear Your Shirt To Work Day” to show the countrywide support for the bid and to get people to sign up to the England Back the Bid Campaign.

It raises all the usual questions though about how fans view the “club v country” debate. For many fans it is all about the success of their club with interest in the National side a long way back in second place and only generally evident when the side is involved in a World Cup or European Championship Tournament. England’s recent showing in South Africa did little to endear themselves to those with only a passing concern for Capello’s team.

The Bid plays strongly on the fact that England has a great football heritage with a country fanatical about its National game. It is true that each week during the season, thousands up and down the country get out to games. However, is there the appetite for International Football? Would crowds turn out for World Cup games featuring New Zealand v Paraguay? I have my club that I support, but I also love to attend games that don’t involve my club or even my country. How many fans up and down the country would do the same? I remember attending a Group game between Spain and Romania at Euro 96 at Elland Road, where the crowd was just fewer than 33,000. St James Park shared the Group B games with Elland Road and the three games in Newcastle were attended by crowds of 19.107, 26,323 and 26,976. The story of unfilled grounds (even in the Quarter and Semi Finals) was a common feature of the tournament. Sell outs were generally limited to the games featuring England. Would 2018 be any different?

In Leeds, are the residents of the City and its fans excited by the prospect of Elland Road being unique in being able to host three different sports at World Cup level? 2013 and 2015 see the Rugby League and then Rugby Union World Cups staged in England and the hat-trick would be complete by the football equivalent in 2018. For Elland Road to be able to host Group games in 2018 a ground capacity of 45,000 would be required and for Quarter Finals 60,000. So if England is successful, there is work to do. This is likely to include the redevelopment of the Kop to increase capacity and rebuilding of the West Stand. It appears that the plan is for the majority of the work to be carried out before the 2015 in time for the Rugby Union World Cup. However, this would affect the capacity at Elland Road during the work. Now if Leeds were back in the Premier League for the start of the 2012/2013 season, I would imagine that the ground would be reduced to a 30,000 capacity. How would that sit with the Chairman and the revenue coming into the club? Leeds United would be left with the legacy of an increased capacity stadium with better facilities – is that enough for you to “Back the Bid”?  http://www.england2018bid.com/

Paul Hatt.

Leeds United and the Other 91 Basket Cases: Mixed Bag Special including Aston Villa, Cardiff City, Southampton, Southend United, England.

Ups and downs can also apply to others.

Leeds United’s first week back in the Championship (Division 2 to you and me) and already we have a “pressure pointer” game on Sunday, basically if we win Nottingham Forest’s Billy Davies attracts the flak, if we lose the headless chickens in the forums start to cluck. Our two performances, as described on here in our new column The Dielhenn Debrief, have shown both encouraging things but also some problems. The main problem is central defence, despite our clean sheet from Tuesday. Basically, and without this ending the stress free season I intend to have, other than Kisnorbo – Bruce, which is unproven, their is no combination involving our 6 centrebacks which does not cause me concern. As witnessed against Derby County we have some mobility problems, and in the case of Collins, some positioning issues. Naylor got dropped for Lincoln City, not sure why he was considered more culpable. Kisnorbo is months away from fitness, Bromby is erratic and Michalik doesn’t have Grayson’s confidence (although for me if he is with us September 1st he should be considered). So whilst we are 35 games away from worrying it would be nice for this early issue to be sorted quickly.

Equally at Aston Villa a quick appointment is needed. The loss of Martin O’Neil so close to the season start does nothing to inspire confidence they will ever break the glass ceiling of 6th. They have lost a decent man manager and inspired ranter, not a tactician as such and certainly not the best talent spotter if his signings are anything to go by but nevertheless a very decent British manager. The list of replacements all, so far, suggest at least 2 seasons of mid-table to come, however the Larner/O’Neil love out meant his resignation was the only outcome and the right one for the club. Too many clubs live beyond their means, too many managers want too much in transfer fees, mainly to cover their inadequacies in bringing youngsters on. The PL has been crying out for a owner to take a stand and say “only Manchester City can buy who they like, we have to balance the books”. Well done that yank in showing the second highest net spender in the PL in the last 4 years the realities of life and shame on your Mr O’Neil on not being able to cope!

One name not mentioned with the Villa Park vacancy is David Jones of Cardiff City. Mr Jones is a strange bloke, reluctant to point the finger at Ridsdale when it was clear to see the ex Chairman was a barrier to promotion, always professing loyalty to the club despite numerous wage delays and yet still turning out half decent teams with some players that don’t look the part. But even the likes of him do push the hard luck story sometimes. Take the 4 man bench for the Sheffield United game, Jones knows he could have filled that subs list but he choose instead to make a political point about the transfer embargo lifted this week. Compare that to Roy Keane at Ipswich Town, he moans on about being down to the bare bones but still uses his youngsters and is rewarded with wins at Middlesbrough and Exeter City. He understands that if you pay people as professional footballers you have to trust them and play them, regardless of age. They are either good enough to be tried or why are they at your club? Clearly Mr Keane will cope better than Mr Jones in adversity.

Adversity was where Southampton were until Markus Liebherr walked in and wiped out a £30m millstone around the clubs neck. His unexpected death isn’t expected to have a adverse affect on the future of the club, which I suppose is why his short reign should be celebrated on the South Coast. Meanwhile further west Exeter City mourn the death at 31 of striker Adam Stansfield. Cancer at such an early age and so quickly is true definition of adversity, much more serious than a football club paying the price of its own indulgences. In my book it would be a fitting tribute to both men if Southampton donated the takings from their home game with Exeter this season to cancer charities (and maybe Jeff Stelling could attend also).

Alas all tragedy tends to be balanced by farce. In football their is lots of it and some places its a permanent feature. Southend United (whose fans think I have a vendetta against them, nonsense I just despise the deluded and ignorant) carried on from last season with 2 court appearances, a mass ref rant over a goal and the signing of 17 players in one day, most of whom have a “conference” feel about them. Now to be fair to Paul Sturrock they do seem to have found some temporary bunker mentality at Roots Hall (or should that be isle 15 condiments?) with late equalisers and unexpected scalps but that only takes you so far. They need the points now to protect them when the Sainsbury’s bailout monies dry up, so about 6 months on present form. Maybe in that time the support will have woken up to Fossets Farm never happening, any realistic Southend fans want to have a book on where your playing in 2 years (ground wise)? I’ll start you off, ground-share with Concord Rangers!

One set of supporters who will never wake up seems to be England. Last night was like Groundhog day, some good stuff, some horrid stuff, youngsters turned up, some big players not performing, tactics a touch disjointed but some interesting cameo’s from players who might feel they should have gone to South Africa. On top of that we have had the “no thank you’s” and the Beckham boot-out (Capello gets one thing right shocker). So not better, not worse, Hungary was just like the rest of the last 2 years. As stated previously on this site, once you realise we don’t have the personnel to win Euro 2012 and that no European team, and certainly not one as limited as England, ever wins the World Cup in South America is the moment you realise Capello is just building up a pension pot at our expense. When we go to Poland/Ukraine no doubt the fact we have qualified will mask the cracks but worse than that it will be two years wasted on Lampard/Gerrard/Barry midfields and not spent on building towards 2018. A shame and a crime in my humble opinion, less a mixed bag more a mixed up mess.

Michael Green.

Leeds United And The Other 91 Basket Cases: Greed Special Including Spurs, Fulham, Ajax, England And the FA.

Your reading a pre 2010-11 archived article

 

Today Paul Hatt looks at greed.

The sad fact of the matter is that we live in a society of greed. If you want something you can usually get it if you are prepared to pay the price. If the demand is there, then those in charge know they can keep pushing that price upwards. It is an unpleasant reality. The recent case of Leeds United charging £4.99 for pre-season games on LUTV (http://clarkeonenil.co.uk/front-page/teenage-kicks-in-taken-for-an-idiot) is a case in point. The galling thing is that Bates (like other Chairman) knows that fans will pay, because they love their club and they want to watch them no matter the cost.

But greed is widespread and is just accepted as part of football today. Take for instance replica shirts. Most clubs now have three shirts available for sale to fans. Tottenham Hotspur for 2010/11 have four new designs which cover home, away, third and European fixtures. This number could be increased even further if Spurs get separate sponsors for the various Cup competitions. It is complete and utter madness. Clubs ultimately don’t care, because they know fans will cough up and continue to buy them. Where is the Premier League and the Football League in all this? Why is there no legislation that says that teams only need two kits? Football has managed to survive all these years without the myriad of colours and designs that we are treated to now. Perhaps our “friends” at Sky are complicit in the kit debate as well?

Membership schemes are another recent area where clubs have cashed in on fans loyalty. Cosy old Fulham who under “cuddly Uncle” Roy Hodgson became everyone’s second favourite team when they reached the Europa League Final have taken the enlightened step of increasing their Membership scheme fees for adults from £20 to £30 (a year). A scheme which in essence gives you the privilege of buying match tickets after Season Ticket Holders, but ahead of the General public and in truth very little else.

I even wonder if the farce involving Ajax, Martin Jol and Fulham was little more than a grand game of avarice for the Dutchman? Did Jol have any real intention of leaving Ajax? Was the Fulham interest a lever to ensure that key players didn’t leave; a ploy to get the Board to provide investment for the purchase of new players? Improved contract Martin? Thanks very much Mr Chairman.

The madness of money was also seen recently with The FA and their sponsorship deal with Nationwide which is not to be extended. A year ago, Nationwide had tabled a £20m offer to extend the partnership for another four years, but this was turned down by The FA. Mistakenly The FA believed England would make more of an impact in the World Cup and held out in the hope of attracting a more lucrative offer. Pure greed ruled their thinking and an 11 year partnership has now been tossed away. Loving the loyalty and logic shown by the suits from Wembley Stadium.

To matters on the pitch and to end on a positive note; an England representative team showing considerably more fighting spirit is the England U19’s who are currently taking part in the European Championships in France. After a win against Austria and a controversial loss to the Netherlands, an equalising goal in the 93rd minute against hosts France ensured progression from the Group Stages. Later today, the team coached by Leeds old boy Noel Blake play their Semi Final against Spain. Lets hope that the U19’s may be able to progress and add to the success of the England U17’s who beat Spain to take that European age-group title back in May this year. I hope Noels’ parting words before the team goes out go something along the lines of, “…get out onto that pitch and enjoy yourselves. Football is a game and achieving success as a team is what we strive for. The simple exhilarating joy comes from winning, not the financial gain that may come in the future. Money isn’t everything…”

Paul Hatt.